13Jan, 2010

A Response to Pat Robertson’s Comments about Haiti

pat_robertsonBack in the day, the comment Pat Robertson made regarding Haiti would have infuriated me. Robertson essentially blamed the devastation that took place in Haiti on the idea that, generations ago, people in Haiti sold their souls to the Devil and are now paying for it. I’m reminded of a similar comment made in a debate on CNN, in which yet another religious figure blamed the devastation in New Orleans following Katrina on the debauchery that took place in that town. Luckily, or perhaps providentially, Tony Campolo was also on the show and pointed out that the French Quarter was fine, that it was low-income minorities who were devastated, and then asked his fellow guest point blank whether God was angry with low-income minorities. The other guest really didn’t know what to say. Any answer would have painted him a loon.

Regardless, Robertson’s comments further divide people of faith from, well, people of faith. I don’t want to debate the theological ramifications of Robertson’s statements, I only want to point out some perspectives that ease my anger, and instead, cause me to pity him. I consider this a more mature response than I would have had a few years ago. Here are a few perspectives that, hopefully, will keep you from throwing a stapler through a wall:

• Many controlling personalities are drawn to the idea of a severe, vengeance oriented God. Robertson must have read a book about Haiti at one point, but it lacked civility to cite that book and espouse an absurd theological idea on television, without context for both. It was reactionary, and came off as a manifestation of his personality, not his theology. Regardless, it was sadly irresponsible for him to make such a devastatingly shocking statement in the context of great hurt. Can you imagine giving the eulogy at a funeral and starting out by saying “before I tell you about God’s grace, let me make it clear that little Johnny deserved to die because he stole candy from a store.” There is something wrong with a person who would do this. These people are often, themselves, controlling. They are wired to build empires, and in order to build empires you have to get people to do what you say, and if you have God standing behind you threatening hurt and pain, you can motivate people. I’ve heard pastors pray and call other men cowards, get angry from the pulpit, yell, belittle other Christian pastors who don’t agree with them, fire people who will not submit to them, surround themselves with yes men and so on. Sadly, they never point the finger at themselves. It’s always YOU or THEM who are the sinners. When they need God’s grace, they usually confess to studying too hard or caring too much. But compassion comes when you realize, and it doesn’t take long to see it, that this person is afraid that if he gives anybody else a free will, they will use it against them. Their mantra is: If I don’t control people, they won’t love me. Psychologists see control as a response to a perceived threat. Picture an adult with an inner twelve-year old saying “I’ll hurt you before you hurt me. I’m tough. I say tough things. Don’t mess with me again.”  In religion, these leaders often project their way of seeing the world onto God. Please forgive me for painting Robertson with a sweeping brush. It’s not always true of controlling people, and there are often good reasons to be harsh and to take action (for instance, when somebody really is trying to control you!) It’s just that this is one of the understandings that has helped me respond to controlling people with more compassion. Theologically, what we all deserve is death, and Christ paid that for us. We live in the New Testament, not the old. Lets spread God’s unconditional love.

• Another truth that gives me a more grounded perspective on Pat Robertson is that he really doesn’t represent most conservatives. I come from a politically and religiously conservative family, and many, many of my friends are very conservative, and all of them would be in shock at Robertson’s statements. The media would have Robertson represent all Christians, or perhaps all conservatives, but the idea is absurd. It’s also important to let people know we think it’s absurd. So here is what the Devil is really going to try to get you to do: Hate other people. Those conservatives, those Christians, those whoever…I think we’d be wise to watch out for that, and stop it at the point where it starts.

• I’ve also found that the more I trust in Christ’s redemption to be sufficient, the less overtly religious I am. And, quite honestly, the more suspect overtly religious people become to me. When I’m with somebody who talks zealously about faith, about Jesus, about the Bible, after a while, I find myself wondering whether or not their faith is strong at all. For instance, if I were with somebody who kept talking about how much they loved their wife, going on loudly and profusely, intuitively I would wonder whether or not they were struggling in their marriage. I would wonder whether they were trying to convince me they loved their wife, or if they were trying to convince themselves. (Now that I think of it, though, some of my favorite people talk about how much they love their wives, but these are less public proclamations and more sighs of appreciation.) Faith in Christ, for me, is similar. It’s intimate. I’m more comfortable giving quiet prayers, intimate prayers. Often alone, in fact. I speak of faith the way I speak of personal matters. Of course there is a time for proclamations, but that’s the key, isn’t it? There’s a time. Anyway, I love that the New Testament is mostly intimate letters written to small groups of people who met in homes. I like the quiet authenticity of our faith. Robertson’s loudness and shock-jock verbiage seems strange and oddly uncompassionate. It felt like he was trying to tell us how tough he was, not how compassionate God is.

haitianschoolcollapseAn appropriate response to Haiti:

“For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in..”

An appropriate response to Pat Robertson:

“You seem angry and tired. Christ loves you. He is not impressed with your religious posturing. He really loves you. You don’t have to hide behind anything anymore. The good news really is that good.”

* I understand that many of you will want to comment on the theological truths you’ve found that support Robertson’s comments, and also on the good that Robertson has done. Regarding the latter, this was not a blanket dismissal on Robertson’s life or ministry, it was a response to a comment, regarding the former, it’s a debate I ask you to take somewhere else. Also, this isn’t meant to harshly judge Robertson, it’s meant to calm those who might want to throw a tomato at him, while also trying to understand why somebody could make such an insensitive comment at such a painful time. Lets put our tomatoes down.

* For those thinking this blog was too harsh, please understand that in one passing comment, Pat Robertson painted an entire nation as Godless, and deserving of destruction. Reports from Haiti have stated that many fled into the streets, crying out to Jesus for help. Robertson, by referencing an obscure book of unknown origin chose to prejudice an otherwise ignorant Christian audience of gullible and trusting viewers. I propose, then, this post needed to be written. I only wish more Christian leaders would speak during moments like this.

*comments had to be suspended because there were so many, the e-mails were shutting down the site. To sum them up: I agree! i disagree! Only more elegantly stated.


522 Responses to “A Response to Pat Robertson’s Comments about Haiti”

  1. Jerry Dallons says:

    I read this thread very carefully before I made this observation. Pat’s timing was way off, I agree with that, however, Pat’s theology is correct. Also Pat must remember that the world does not always understand Biblical truths. Pat’s comments are made with a public audience which lake the ability to understand this biblical truth. After reading many of the comments on this blog I would be curious what the ages are of those who made comments. There is a generation gap among christians and I believe it shows in this blog. Chip who made the first comment has some good insight. So here is the bottom line.
    1. Pat’s timing was wrong
    2. Pat’s theology is correct
    3. Some of you might want to do a study on not only what God says about situations like this but also study Pat’s claims of what the people of Haiti agreed to some 200 yesrs ago.
    4. This is a wonderful opportunity to express God’s love to the people of Haiti. Though thry may be under a curse from the past that dosen’t discount that God loves the people of Haiti and we serve a God of redemption and restoration.

  2. Ariel Renae says:

    Thank you for this. This gave me the clarity and the wording I needed for the whole “situation”. Amen.

  3. Nate says:

    Jerry: Pat’s theology, as implied by the Haiti quote, is that suffering and poverty indicates God’s judgment for a specific sin, and therefore that wealth and comfort indicate God’s reward for good behavior. While Joel Osteen, and lots hip, good looking media-saturated preachers make a lot of money of this theory, it’s as unbiblical and disgusting as it gets. Don didn’t really want to get into a theological debate here, but I have say prosperity theology is absurd and hateful. Jesus attacked it. The book of Job is in the Bible to defend against it. Please, if you don’t want to commit spiritual suicide, change your thinking.

  4. Dan Arnold says:

    I agree with you Don. I don’t think your views on this are harsh at all. In fact, they should go further. Belief in imaginary things opens one up to this kind of thinking. Belief in an anthropomorphic, theistic god, a god with a personality is the problem. Such a belief makes one more susceptible to the screwball notions like Pat Robertson’s on Haiti. Robertson hardly stands alone. His views are right out of the Old Testament. The genesis of nutty ideas like Robertson’s is all too biblical. Most Christians I know have ameliorated the nutty, vengeful Robertson like ideas that have complete biblical support with their own sane modern notions. Those more modern notions are anti biblical. One needs to not only reject Robertson, but the entire Judeo-Christian belief system that fosters this insanity.

  5. Jorge Fusaro says:

    Absolutely brilliant, classic Miller: “Can you imagine giving the eulogy at a funeral and starting out by saying “before I tell you about God’s grace, let me make it clear that little Johnny deserved to die because he stole candy from a store.”

    And, “…Robertson’s comments further divide people of faith from, well, people of faith.” -great!

    Roberton’s remarks are an opportunity to show non-believers, skeptics, and those who have left the church for being judgmental–what Christ-like faith is all about!

    My two cents on this whole scandal: “An Urban Legend and A Response to Pat Robertson: Did He Go Too Far?” – http://bit.ly/7jNwmp

  6. Sean McGowan says:

    This is one of the most judgmental things I’ve ever read.

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  9. mary fosburg says:

    I am so glad it is God’s job to judge people’s souls, not mine. [Matt 7] Very interesting about the controlling nature and how a person sees God. It really helps me to give grace to people who sees God as a severe vengeance kind of god. I was wondering why people do see him that way. Thanks Don. Are you coming back to Mars Hill soon?

  10. anewcreation says:

    I must admit that before reading Seth Freeman’s comment, part of which I quote below, my response would have been simply: good theology, bad timing, but Seth has raised an incredibly valid point that many judgemental characters, like myself, often miss, and that is that the wrath of God was indeed satisfied on the cross, and therefore it is heretical and contradictory to that foundational biblical principle, to say that this earthquake was God’s punishment.

    You have challenged my views deeply Seth and given me much food for thought and prayerful reflection, and for that I am very grateful.

    My heart and prayers go out to all who are now suffering as a consequence of the earthquake. Let’s all put aside the whys and the whens, and as Christians let’s display to the world the grace and mercy of Jesus Christ for that is our callings and the fruit for which we shall be known as followers of the Lord, and not the callous hearts which use others’ hour of need to make themselves appear righteous to the world, and I am not referring to Pat here, but myself and others.

    Here are Seth’s wise words above.

    “Whether or not the Haitians worshipped the devil is completely irrelevant since the wrath of God is fully poured out on Christ according to the Gospels and therefore satisfied. A willfully public figure who says foolish, uneducated things about widows and orphans while their impoverished home is burning, are bringing judgement on themselves.

    Is he getting what he deserves by having someone publicly call him on this? No, he probably deserves to be tarred, feathered and humiliated. He deserves to be spat on and called unimaginably harsh names. But, again, as Mr. Miller pointed out; Christ’s sacrifice also covers Pat Robertson and he is loved as fiercely as the Haitian that dies in the street.”

    Thank you for letting us all use your blog to share our opinions.

    anewcreation

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  12. Joy O'Toole says:

    Earthquakes are caused by “…abrupt rupture and rebound of rocks in which elastic strain has been slowly accumulating” (Webster’s American College Dictionary), If God reacted to the wrongs of this world by punishing us with natural disasters, we would have been wiped off the face of the earth for good long ago, never to return. We’re still here and I hope it’s to do God’s work, not to pass judgment on innocent people.

  13. maria says:

    Don,
    For the most part I agree with your piece, except for the where you state “faith is personal”. Faith in Christ while it is personal, should not be kept quiet. You must understand that it is also true that we often speak of that which we love or which we are passionate about. If we don’t speak of Jesus then how much do we really love Him? That said, I had someone tell me, before even Pat Robertson made that comment, that this happened in Haiti because of their “witchcraft”. It upset me, because it was as if a stone was being cast for some sins but not others. One of the things that people forget is that natural disasters happen. The Bible says the rain falls on the just and the unjust, equally. It is ridiculous to say such things, especially because there are Christians living there, yes even in Haiti there are Christians. So what are people who assert that this happened because of sin implying that God is not faithful to His own and that He pours out wrath on them? We forget how Abraham pleaded with God for Lot, people forget that. Additionally, to single out Haiti would be to ignore the many sins of the rest of us here in the U.S. should then not God send calamities upon us? I think that people lack a way of explaining evil and tragedies and always try to find a response. The best answer is simply to look at the Word. Trials happen to everyone. Evil and pain are explained by simply understanding this is a fallen world and that the sin of Adam and Eve set the world in motion for decay and “the whole earth groans” because of this decay. We grown for the coming of the Messiah. Pat and anyone who would say these things are merely trying to answer the question of those who would say “why does God allow this?” However, the explanation is not by pointing at sin, or at the devil, but merely by looking at Scripture “neither this man nor his parents sin, but this has happened so that God may be glorified.” Even in the midst of chaos, Romans 8:28 remains true. God does not need to be excused or explained. He is righteous and true.

  14. Pamela Peron says:

    Pat Robertson just seems to have a low IQ.

    Nothing more.

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  16. Joey Faulk says:

    Thanks for your words, and the careful thought put into them. This article has also helped me get some proper perspective on this tragedy: http://joeyfaulk.us/2010/01/15/does-god-hate-haiti/

  17. Clay says:

    Donald, thanks for this post. You’ve added some clarity to a myriad of feelings I’ve had bubbling around inside since I got word of Robertson’s comments. Thanks for your refreshing and Christ-centered response. I’ll be posting this on my Facebook and tweeting it.

  18. Mike…Yes, the Bible includes Exodus 20:5. and it also includes Ezekiel 18 which states that God does not punish the child for the sin of the father. These passages appear to be in tension, or perhaps the understanding of what God is like is evolving.

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  20. george says:

    just wanted to say i agree completely. and kudos on the new book bro!

  21. Thank you for the words to clarify so thoughtfully what I have been thinking/feeling on this whole matter.